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Posted 5 Months, 1 Week ago
dfc2soft
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i am doing resaerch for a fictious film project and would kindly ask for your help with these questions:

1) What was the situation in the channel and the surrounding sea areas

between febuary and june 1944. Whos navy was predominant and was there

any civilian sea traffic (fishingboats etc.)?

2) Was there any possiblity for civilians to travel from germany to england during the mentioned time? Maybe via switzerland, france(vichy) or scandinavia? If so, what means of transportation could be used and would one (english citizen) need any permits?

thanks a lot for your help in advance best regards Fritz Brand
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Posted 5 Months, 1 Week ago
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An old friend of mine was engaged in a crosschannel air transport cargo delivery system for four years during this period. Of course there -was- the Lysander delivery/pickup service
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Posted 5 Months, 1 Week ago
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Even Niels Bohr had to ride in the bomb bay of the British Mosquito courier plane that did the diplomatic run from Stockholm. Bohr was fitted out in flight suit, etc. Understood if there problems with the Luftwaffe the pilot would open the bomb bay doors.
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Posted 5 Months, 1 Week ago
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Article in Aeroplane Magazine last month on the ball-bearing runs by BOAC Mosquitoes, including a bit about the flight which got Bohr out - they did meet a Fw190 on the way too.
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Posted 5 Months, 1 Week ago
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Well, 1944, the sea was pretty much controlled by the allies, namely the Channel. There was some fishing traffic, but darn little it seems? There was some traffic to/from Germany/England, mostly via Sweden I suspect, or other neutral countries. Permits, well, cover story of why you an Imperial Citizen is traveling to/inside of Germany, the Abwehr and other intelligence as well as Gestapo and like, would like to know.. Likely have some sort of forged papers? On option is to be from Frisia or one of the Channel Islands which were occupied by the Germans.. And they spoke English or close enough language so you could learn it?

Undersea, the Kriegsmarine (German Navy) was still doing service, but it was hard. the lost more ships and men than the rest of the navies in Submarines combined it seems?
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Posted 5 Months, 1 Week ago
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by BOAC Mosquitoes, including a bit about the flight which got Bohr out - they did meet a Fw190 on the way too.

The pilot would open the bomb bay doors and then what happens to Bohr?

What happened with the FW 190?
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Posted 5 Months, 1 Week ago
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Got the article in front of me now: Mosquito was G-AGGC of BOAC, pilot Gilbert Rae, Radio OPerator James Payne. Passenger Neils Bohr. They were intercepted 50 miles from Havstund by two Fw190s but escaped by diving for the sea and then running. The Fw190s gave up after 30 minutes. Bohr blacked out durjng the dive and only recovered about 20 minutes after they'd got clear - so 50 minutes after the attack - apparently the oxygen mask available was too small to fit 'the professor's very large head' (many of us academics have this problem

Article is by Frances Nicolaisen, daughter of James Payne. Ref. is Aeroplane Monthly, March 2003, p.48-57. I recommend it.
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Posted 5 Months, 1 Week ago
Wayne McCoy
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He'd be dropped out into the North Sea, there to die on impact or (in the extremely unlikely event that he survived the drop) from drowning/hypothermia/injuries. The Brits wanted him alive if possible, but they were determined that the Germans wouldn't get him except dead. I very much doubt they informed Bohr of this.
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